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Danny
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Joined: 05 Jun 2002
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Location: Alblasserdam, The Netherlands |
I played Morrowind on my pc for quite some time, and loved it from the start, but i am suffering from RSI so i want to relief my mouse arm as much as i can.
A simple solution for my problem was the xbox version of Morrowind. I bought myself an Xbox for Morrowind only (maybe some other good crpg's will come out on the system, i thought Gothic 2 for example).
But now i read somewhere that the xbox version of Morrowind will be not near as beautifull as the PC version (low res, low distance). But how can this be when Pixel Shading is supported? Please can someone tell me otherwise? I know that the game has great gameplay and that graphics are not as important as last mentioned but i played the PC version in 800x600 with medium drawing distance and it looked great!
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Wed Jun 05, 2002 8:33 am |
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they obviously have to make some sacrifices on the xbox. If you compare an x-box to a hmm standard pc, say a pretty normal pc nowadays has a 1 GHz or so cpu, 256 MB of memory and a gfx card with 32 megs onboard, plus probably a soundcard with some memory and stuff 
The xbox on the other hand as far as I can remember is built around a 733 MHz p3 with 64 megs of memory shared between system and grafix card, plus it's probably fairly limited in resolution as it's supposed to be able to run on any mainstream tv so it will be limited to 640x480 screen resolution at best
These specs will probably suffice for most games and stuff, but as we've been discussing to death MW is a resource hog of the rare type hehe
I'm sure someone will come up with a more specific spec for the x-box and such but basically it's about power and resources.
This is a god article on the xbox http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1561&p=1 |
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Wed Jun 05, 2002 1:10 pm |
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hm, good article that is not god  damn have to register soon so I can edit my posts! |
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Wed Jun 05, 2002 1:11 pm |
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Danny
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Location: Alblasserdam, The Netherlands |
Thanks for you reply. But what i can't understand is why they support pixel shading? (for the nice water effects). From what i read, this drops the fps with 5 a 10.
So if the framerate from the xbox version isn't very high because of the high system demands for this game, why do they use pixel shading? I'd rather play in a higher resolution then have a choppy framerate but nice water...
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Wed Jun 05, 2002 1:26 pm |
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MoonDragon
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Pixel shading is an advanced feature of the GPU (that's graphical processing unit, or the specialized cpu on your video card). What that means is, your GPU can do this independent of the rest of the system. Especially system like the X-box. At 640x480, the GPU has plenty of time to number-crunch the pixel shading stuff. I think X-box has gf2 or gf3 GPUs inside which are more than strong enough to do all this by themselves.
Why you get drops in framerate on normal PCs is because most people run at resolutions like 1280x960. Meaning, the GPU has to compute 4 times as much information for each and every frame.
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Wed Jun 05, 2002 2:51 pm |
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Midiboy
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you also have to remember that the XBox has nowhere near the overhead a PC does. It does not have Windows to worry about, it does not have any background services that have to run, and it does not have to worry about direct x compatibility. The Xbox can talk to the hardware directly...it does not have to talk to the hardware through software.
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Wed Jun 05, 2002 2:58 pm |
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Danny
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quote:
Originally posted by Midiboy
you also have to remember that the XBox has nowhere near the overhead a PC does. It does not have Windows to worry about, it does not have any background services that have to run, and it does not have to worry about direct x compatibility. The Xbox can talk to the hardware directly...it does not have to talk to the hardware through software.
Exactly! But why do i read lots of stories from people who say that the xbox version is running at 640x480 with view distance set to close. Ofcourse i don't know if those stories are true, but if more then 5 persons say this there must be some sort of truth in it?
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Wed Jun 05, 2002 3:03 pm |
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Midiboy
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A TV can't handle much more than 640x480 and do a good job. As far as view set to close, most people that I know that have seen the XBox version on the tv said that the view distance is definately closer than the PC, but it still looks really good. You know...there are like 30 screenshots for the xbox version up linked right from this websites front page. Check it out.
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Wed Jun 05, 2002 3:07 pm |
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Rendelius
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These shots seem to be PC shots, not XBox shots. At least that is what is said now.
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Wed Jun 05, 2002 3:10 pm |
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Midiboy
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DOH!
Oh well. Still, all you XBoxers out there...get the game. It is so cool! I just beat the main quest and will be starting over in a few weeks with a different character.
I still think this will go down as one of the coolest games ever.
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Wed Jun 05, 2002 3:13 pm |
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Danny
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Yeah i noticed the screenshots on the frontpage and i also read something about them being pc screenshots...I also agree that Morrowind is one of the best crpg's i have ever played (and i must say that i have played quite a few). It's just that im a total noob when it comes to consoles and tv's 
Like i said, i played pc games my whole life, but i am rather forced to play games on a console nowadays because of the rsi problems i've got. I guess i'm just spoiled with the high resolutions pc-monitors can handle
Btw: I even bought a new 82cm Philips TV for my first console
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Wed Jun 05, 2002 3:19 pm |
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Midiboy
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Sounds like a nice TV! I have a 52." (I am not sure what that compares to in centimeters...I use that stupid form of measurement that the US uses...you know...the one that isn't consistant at all...)
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Wed Jun 05, 2002 3:27 pm |
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Danny
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quote:
Originally posted by Midiboy
Sounds like a nice TV! I have a 52." (I am not sure what that compares to in centimeters...I use that stupid form of measurement that the US uses...you know...the one that isn't consistant at all...)
52" ? That is 52 inch if i'm correct? Inch is 2.54 cm? No that cannot be, it would be one heck of a TV!
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Wed Jun 05, 2002 3:34 pm |
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Midiboy
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Yup. Inches. It is one pretty big heck of a tv.
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Wed Jun 05, 2002 3:48 pm |
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Danny
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That's one big TV alright!
Ontopic: Does anyone know if all of the pc-content also will be in the xbox version? Same quests, same character generation, same great world etc.
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