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GothicGothicness
Keeper of the Gates
Joined: 04 Oct 2003
Posts: 110
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Okay first off, this was just so cool. One of the elite orcs noticed I was a little to strong so he tried to drown me,
YEpp really( a little weird considering orcs don't like water, but maybe he was desperate). Any way this is what he did I was running across the water, and suddenly he jumped me and I ended up under water. Fortuantly he was the one to drown first so I could get up. Really cool. (Probably some kind of bug though 
Here, is a question that might have been asked before but....
Does it make any diffrent between having 105% in one-handen/two-handed weapons from having 100% ? I can't notice any. |
Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:18 pm |
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EDV
High Emperor
Joined: 12 Mar 2003
Posts: 654
Location: The Netherlands |
I never noticed orcs wanted to drow me, I think he 'threw' you in the water by exedent.
As far as I know there is no difference between 100% and 105% combat skill. You must have learned it from books because it's imposible to train more than 100%.  |
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Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:21 pm |
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balconygolf_ThE_bRiDe
Alien Dwarf
Joined: 26 Dec 2003
Posts: 705
Location: Greece/Athens or *BrOtHeRhOoD* |
You cant learn fighting skill (as 1 or 2- handed weapons ,bows,x-bows) from books.
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Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:56 pm |
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Cm
Sentinel of Light
Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Posts: 5209
Location: Missouri USA |
If you wear, eat or whatever, something that drains a skill, then train in it, and then remove or undo the draining, you can train with trainers to over 100. The orc rings are one example.
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Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:20 pm |
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jmurdock
Old Fogey
Joined: 11 Nov 2003
Posts: 1285
Location: the heart of acadiana they like to call it |
@BtB
There are 2 books Lutero sells that if you buy and read you get 5 points, one time, each in 1H and 2H.
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Tue Feb 10, 2004 11:39 pm |
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Wulf
The Shepherd
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 2312
Location: North/West.England |
O.K GothicGothicness,
That was not a bug, all orcs in Gothic II can swim. Npc's that land on top of
another will imediately jump up high into the air (this is a collision course code
routine written into the Gothic II game code) this prevents the game from
"hanging" ect', however, when this situation happens under water, the npc who
is underneath the other can not get away by the only way out, "up", that's
assuming the uppermost npc/monster stays in the same spot. 
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Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:13 pm |
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jmurdock
Old Fogey
Joined: 11 Nov 2003
Posts: 1285
Location: the heart of acadiana they like to call it |
@Wulf
Ok, then why did the orc who came at me across the river just stand under water til he died? 
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Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:17 pm |
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Wulf
The Shepherd
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 2312
Location: North/West.England |
O.K jmurdock,
There are several ways for this to happen, the most common is the "shock"
or "stun" effect on the current running ani, I have done this many times and it is true, if you want to try a simulation let me know and i will do a "runthrough"
but it would be a bit longwinded? (please say no) 
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Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:29 pm |
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jmurdock
Old Fogey
Joined: 11 Nov 2003
Posts: 1285
Location: the heart of acadiana they like to call it |
It's ok. It was just funny watching him sit there, scratching his behind like he was on watch. But he was underwater and his hp steadily dropping.
Figured you had an explanation though. I think you know more about the ins and outs of this game than anybody. 
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Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:42 pm |
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balconygolf_ThE_bRiDe
Alien Dwarf
Joined: 26 Dec 2003
Posts: 705
Location: Greece/Athens or *BrOtHeRhOoD* |
quote:
Originally posted by jmurdock
@BtB
There are 2 books Lutero sells that if you buy and read you get 5 points, one time, each in 1H and 2H.
I thought that the books gaved you +points in strenght.
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Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:21 pm |
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jmurdock
Old Fogey
Joined: 11 Nov 2003
Posts: 1285
Location: the heart of acadiana they like to call it |
Try them next time you fully trained on 1H or 2H. I don't know, 5000 gp seems cheap for 5 point of weapons expertise.
You don't get a level out of them though. So if you have 55 and read one, you'll have 60 but still be a fighter. You won't go up to master.
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Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:27 pm |
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balconygolf_ThE_bRiDe
Alien Dwarf
Joined: 26 Dec 2003
Posts: 705
Location: Greece/Athens or *BrOtHeRhOoD* |
quote:
Originally posted by jmurdock
Try them next time you fully trained on 1H or 2H. I don't know, 5000 gp seems cheap for 5 point of weapons expertise.
I agree but right now I am guildless.So it would be best if I bought them in the end of chapter 2 or during chapter 3.I am planning to continue as a mage this time but it got me in thinking "cause I dont want to waste LP for dex and strenght .and I dont want to raise them with foods either.So what I am going to do.....right now I have difficulties to go on 'cause lot of missions as bandits at light house, blood chalices need both dex. and strenght. 
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Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:09 pm |
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jmurdock
Old Fogey
Joined: 11 Nov 2003
Posts: 1285
Location: the heart of acadiana they like to call it |
For sure. But this is the best time for you to raise them with lp since they cost you double later.
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Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:13 pm |
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balconygolf_ThE_bRiDe
Alien Dwarf
Joined: 26 Dec 2003
Posts: 705
Location: Greece/Athens or *BrOtHeRhOoD* |
quote:
Originally posted by jmurdock
For sure. But this is the best time for you to raise them with lp since they cost you double later.
Ouffcurse!Why I didnt think about that earlier???stupid mind....
Guess who NPCs I am going to visit when I load agian hehe
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