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DungeonKeeper
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interface, or lack of
   

after reading all the posts on this game i went out and bought it.after fighting with the interface for an hour trying to figure out the controls and reading the manual which is not correct. then trying to change my keyboard functions in settings to allow more interactivity with my mouse which the game wont allow i put it on the shelf from frustration... i pulled it down again today and decided to be more patient with it as it looks and sound like a great game... 3 hours later after reading all the post and trying the control key combinations i have read i am still limited to walking forward and backwards, strafing and jumping i managed tp learn how to fight with my fists.. but the thing that upsets me most is the fact that after trying every combination of key commands possible i cant do someting as simple as pick up a bottle of wine on the beach ,i cant pick up anything!! and i cant seem to anitiate any conversation how does this happen?do you speak only when spoken to? how do you open chests? pick things up. Help before i before the only thing i mangle in gothic is the game itself!!!
Post Sun Apr 28, 2002 8:51 pm
 
Danicek
The Old One
The Old One




Joined: 15 Dec 2001
Posts: 5922
Location: Czech Republic
   

You have enough in readme on disk.

But well, if you want something long here is part of JemmyM FAQs

General Controls
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Up/Down/Left/Right
Go figure

Left Control (Use) + Up Arrow
This is the combination that will do most of the things in gothic.
Its used to pick up stuff, to interact with things in the world, to fight
wich is about everything you need. It also helps you to climb ladders, and
open chests/doors.


Space = Ready Weapon/Spell
An anonymous visitor to the forum wrote the following:
------------------------------------------------------------------
If you use the spacebar to draw your last weapon, you can hold it
down and use the arrow keys to switch between magic and your
equipped sword (never had a bow at the end when i stumbled on
this). If you hold for the magic - it shows all your quick slot
runes floating in a circle around your character, and you can
use the left right arrow keys to pick which you want to use.
Not really handy, but it is there
------------------------------------------------------------------


'0' key (Look Around)
Holding down this key lets you look around in the world in 3rd person
perspective.


ALT (jump) + Up = Jump forward
This button helps you to jump, forwards mostly, when pressing the Up key.

An anonymous person told me:
As for jumping I have found I can used a bloodfly scroll on occasion
to get access to higher places. I made it all the way to the top of
the broken down tower close to Castle Mountain where it goes down
into orc territory.

Acrobatics
Acrobatics is automaticly used when jumping,
as long as you bought the skill.


ALT (Jump) + Up = Climb
It also let you climb up on things. Stand in front of a wall, and jump,
the character will grab the edge on top of the wall (as long as the wall
isnt to tall) and crawl up on it.


Alt (Jump) + Down = Climb Down
Go figure


Shift (Walk) + forward
Lets you walk, like running, but slower
But at least you wont fall of walls when doing this.


A (Sneak) = Sneak
This can only be used when you have learned to sneak (its a skill)
This can be used to surprise opponents or sneak into huts.


S (Status Screen) = Status Screen
Here you can see your current level, your amount of experience, the
amount required to reach the next level, and other statistics.


L (Logbook) = Current Missions
Once you see the message "note written" on screen your logbook is
updated. Be sure to check it often so you dont have any unfinished
quests or reicived important info that you would otherwise miss.


Mouse controls
--------------
In the game, Left Mouse Button substitutes the Use button.
The Right Mouse Button substitutes "ESC".


Right Hand Controls
-------------------
Most people in the forums play Gothic with alternative controls.
Left hand on the keyboard, right hand on the mouse.
In this case almost all movement and combat controls can be
reached without repositioning the left hand.
The right hand is used for the more sensitive stuff like aiming.
In most opinions, default controls suck for righthanded people.
Gothic was intended to be played keyboard-only.
Mouse support was (reportedly) only added aftersome advice
by a print mag.
- Thanks for Gorath for the info


Inventory
---------
If you press the TAB key during the game, a column will pop up to the
right showing your inventory.

Move right - left to browse through your inventory. There is one column
for Weapons, Armor, Artifacts, Magic (scrolls & runes), Food & Drinks,
Potions & Miscellaneous.

To equip or use something in the inventory, activate the inventory (duh),
then use the mousewheel or the arrow keys to select your inventory item.
Then use the item (Left Control (Use) + Up Arrow).
Potions/food will be eaten, rings/necklaces will be worn, weapons will be
readied and spells will be placed in one of your free quickslots.

To drop an item, press the Left Control (Use) + down.

Oh, yeah, here you can place things in quickslots.
Melee weapons are by default placed as 1, while Ranged weapons are placed
as 2. Spells can be put in 4-0.
When you are not into the inventory, you can use theese quickslots
(press 1-0 on the keyboard) to ready whatever you had in the slot.

So what is 3?
That is your last used spell.

In the inventory lists, Armor and Weapons are autosorted. Best on top.
Bows/Crossbows are sorted separatly.


Limitations
-----------
You need to reach a certain amount of strength to use some melee weapons,
once reached however, you can use both 1h and 2h weapons, even if you dont
know how to use them correctly. Untrained you CAN hurt enemies, but wont
do it with style, so the hits will be fewer, your clumsiness will probably
hurt you and you cannot do as many critical hits and combinations.

You need to reach a certain amount of Dexterity to use some long range
weapons. Once reached however, you can use both Bows and crossbows,
even if you dont know how to use them correctly. Untrained you can
hurt enemies, but will fire arrows slow and inneffective.
You will shoot fewer arrows in longer time, you will miss more often,
and you wont do as many critical hits.

You need to reach a certain Circle of Magic to use some of the runes.
Without Circles you may still use scrolls, but they are wasted after one
use. Teleport runes can be used by everyone, but they still need mana.

The game dont tell you, but you have a hurting neck, and all rings are
thumbrings. This means that you may only use two rings and one necklace
in the same time. Choose wisely. Read in the Classes selection to reicive
tips on Artefacts.


Grabbing stuff from a Container
-------------------------------
Stand in front of the container, hold down Left Control (Use) and press forward.
You will see the container in a left column.
Mark objects in the left column, and hold down Left Control (Use)
and press Right. You can put back things into the container using
Left Control (Use) and press Left.

If you want to move multiple items, try this:
use + left/right turn = 1 item per click
use + left/right strafe = 10 items per click
use + left/right turn + shift = 100 items per click


Trading
-------
While trading you will see another two columns in the middle of the screen.
Now, when moving things right/left they will be placed into the middle
columns. You will see a number on top of the columns that will tell you
the total value. Offer as much as you wich, and get as much as you wish.
If your value is total or greater than the sellers total, then you can
do the transaction with using enter and selecting "Accept".

If you want to move multiple items, try this:
use + left/right turn = 1 item per click
use + left/right strafe = 10 items per click
use + left/right turn + shift = 100 items per click


Lockpicking
-----------
To lockpick a chest, stand in front of it, then save.
Now press the use button, the character will kneel in front of
the chest. Now use your left-right arrow to try out the combination.
When you do right, you will hear a 'click'
When you do wrong, you will reicive a message about failing,
and probably your picklock will break.
Keep trying. Some locks have 4 digit codes, a few have 3 or 6.
Once you know the code (or are out of lockpicks) load your game.
When you know the code and loaded the game, unlock the chest.


Swimming
--------
A few swimming lessons...
Get into the water. =)
The first thing about water is that when hostile enemies are near, you
wont move as quick as you normally would as long as your legs are under
water... Dont let them take you in this position...

To dive you must be 'floating'.
To dive, or to swim beneath the water, press the right mouse button.
As long as you press the mouse button you will swim forward, and you
control your direction with the mouse. To get up to the surface, swim
upwards until your head pops up above the surface, then release the right
mouse button.

To be able to just swim quickly on the surface, do not touch the right
mouse button! Just press forward on the keyboard and choose your direction
with moving the mouse.
Post Sun Apr 28, 2002 9:00 pm
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Death
Village Leader
Village Leader




Joined: 19 Mar 2002
Posts: 78
Location: Orlando,FL USA
   

Well most of the interaction is done by: Ctrl + Up Arrow

That works for talking picking up ect.

Some chests also work with: Ctrl + Up arrow

But Most chests (And you need Picklocks to acomplish this) are done with codes when you interact with them you'll get on your knees if it's unlocked then you can just touch Ctrl + Up arrow to open them, but if it's locked the you have to try combinations with the left and right arrow to unlock them. Click means right, and a message untop means wrong(Most of the time Lock Picks brake if your unskilled at lock picking.) and you have to start over.

I hope I helped. And also give the game a chance you'll miss out if you don't.
Post Sun Apr 28, 2002 9:01 pm
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Jaz
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Joined: 20 Jan 2002
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At least in the German version ctrl (the action key) is also mapped to mouse 1.
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Post Sun Apr 28, 2002 10:03 pm
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DungeonKeeper
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Thank you all for the help much appreciated. your right it does take some getting used to but once you do it is a great game , the immesiveness of this gameworld is without a doubt outstanding. this is what i call freedom. freedom to live out your destiny as you choose, roleplaying at its finest so far . Question? has there been any patchs? there seems to be some pretty bad memory leaks in the sect camp, other than that it runs smooth as silk. OH. aside from getting literally stuck to the side of a cliff LOL!!
Post Mon Apr 29, 2002 5:55 am
 
Danicek
The Old One
The Old One




Joined: 15 Dec 2001
Posts: 5922
Location: Czech Republic
   

There are patches. Visit official Gohtic site and see your version. Maybe you already have patched (latest English versions came patched I think).
Post Mon Apr 29, 2002 6:03 am
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Jaz
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Joined: 20 Jan 2002
Posts: 9708
Location: RPGDot
   

Look here for a patch on GothicDot .
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Post Mon Apr 29, 2002 8:59 am
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