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did gothic kill my pc?
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Karkov
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Has anyone xperienced similiar problems.
After installing and playing gothic for a few hours, i left the game, and my pc wnet to screensaver mode. When I wanted to play again, the computer crashed.
I haven't been able to boot since. The boot sequence simply dosent start.
I have never xperienced similiar problems before and the pc is 6 months old.

my system is
1200 athlon
512 mb ddr ram
geoforce 2 pro 64 mb ddr ram
asus motherboard

Post Thu Mar 21, 2002 4:03 pm
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Does it at least boot to safe mode or to one of the diagnostic modes?
If not, you can go here to get some good boot disks.
You'll want to select 'none' for your screensaver.

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Post Thu Mar 21, 2002 4:22 pm
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Nope, it dosn't boot to safemode. The power comes on, the cd light lights, the cooling fan on the processor, motherboard, and geoforce starts and thats it.
So I can't boot from a boot disk, the computer is dead and have to be fixed by the retailer so I'm not seeking solutions, i'm trying to find out if Gothic caused this behavior because if it did, then I won't reinstall when its repaired.
Post Thu Mar 21, 2002 4:28 pm
 
Joey Nipps
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There really isn't anything that Gothic could do that would actually damage your system. It is likely that coincidentally something went.

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Post Thu Mar 21, 2002 5:30 pm
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OctU
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"it dosn't boot to safemode. The power comes on, the cd light lights, the cooling fan on the processor, motherboard, and geoforce starts and thats it. So I can't boot from a boot disk"...

If your aren't even getting a POST from your BIOS and you aren't able to get into your CMOS settings, you have a hardware problem, not a software problem. So Gothic, or any other software application, is in no way responsible for that.

I can try to help you determine what is going on, but you have to tell me a few things:

1) Does your computer "beep" at all when you first power it on, and if so, how many beeps does it give and are they short beeps or long ones? You can start by taking out all cards in your system except the video card to see if your system at least gets into POST (the point at which your base system specs come up, such as what kind of processor you have, how much memory is found, etc.). If you can POST with this minimal configuration, start adding the other cards one by one to see which culprit is causing problems.

2) Are you overclocking your system? If so, you may want to open your case and reset the CMOS jumper which will clear your BIOS settings. If overclocking is what was causing the problem, you can then go into CMOS upon start-up (usually by hitting DEL key when computer first starts-up) and reset your system to default values. Don't attempt to overclock unless you really know what you are doing and have done a good amount of research on the subject.

3) Do you know what kind of heatsink/fan you have on your processor? Athlons run hot, and if you don't have a sufficient cooling solution for it, including thermal grease between the heatsink/fan and processor, you are either going to make your system inoperable or fry your processor outright.

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Post Thu Mar 21, 2002 5:51 pm
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Karkov
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i'm not overclocking, i don't know what fan i got.

At first there came long beeps from the bios but I didn't know that there was a signifiqance to them at the time, so I didn't count them, but it was long beeps in a monotounous pattern.
then i shut down the system and the beeps stopped.

could it be that the Gothic engine is poorly programmed and put too much strain on the processor that overheats.

I mean, the engine in Wolfenstein seem too handle more polys but smoother. Looking at the numourous complaints from people about crashes etc. it seems that there is some kind of fatal error with Gothic.

is that at all possible?
Post Thu Mar 21, 2002 6:18 pm
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You have either a problem with your processor, memory, video card, power supply, or motherboard (or any combination thereof). I know that may not sound encouraging, but here is what to consider and how to proceed:

If your system was working fine before, it may be that your system took a power surge and damaged one or more of these components. Even systems w/ with old or low quality surge suppressors will not protect your system from big power spikes. If possible, begin with the easiest things to replace in order to isolate the faulty devices -- try putting in another video card, then try replacing memory modules, etc.

Your power supply could also be faulty, which may or may not have anything to do w/ a power surge.

Did you make any changes to your hardware or change anything in your BIOS settings before the problem occured? If so, what exactly were those changes?

You should to go to asus.com and cross-check your specific mobo model to see what BIOS it has, and then look-up the associated "beep" codes for that BIOS to determine what the system is reporting as faulty.

Again, no software is going to physically destroy your hardware. If you had poor cooling for your CPU and ran software that would go beyond the capacity of the cooling solution to handle, then you would start encountering glitches and problems (random restarts or "blue screens of death"), but you would not fry the chip outright. Once you let the system cool down for a few minutes, it would start again and operate as normal until you ran such software again.

As a related matter, check the fan on your CPU heatsink to make sure it is running when you start the machine. If not, then you will definitely have some serious heat issues on your hands.

Let me know how you proceed and what you discover.
Post Thu Mar 21, 2002 7:16 pm
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