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Roach
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I agree, I HATE Elves, though not for the reasons Ral-Jiktar stated. I agree with them but my hatred for them is for a real life reason. Though first I'd like to add that for a race that supposedly has so much sadness from their wasted immortality they don't seem to have much depth of character. Shouldn't it strengthen their moral ethic in helping other races both militarily and as guides in life?
OK, the real reason I HATE Elves is because of the way most people perceive them. They are seem by most people as just big fairies, not fairies in the Shakespearian/Oberon since, but as in the just for little kids type. And most people think that the fantasy genre (Novels) is all Elves, and corny magicians with pointy hats, and freaking fairies!!! This hurts sales for fantasy novels that are aimed at adults, with in turn means there is less demand for them, which means that it is harder for people like me to find a publisher and when I do I will get less money.
So the Elves actually affect me negatively in real life.
Post Sun Aug 25, 2002 5:01 pm
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Roach: For you .
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Roach
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Thanks, I needed that!
BTW, in case it wasn't directly implied before, while I think Elves are extremely overrated and shallow, I think that Orcs are a mostly untapped resource in the fantasy novel genre, that have a great deal of character that could be used.
*For all you Elf fans, I admittedly am predisposed against elves.
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There is a pen&paper RPG named Orkworld, by the way. Characters play a tribe of Orks.
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Elves can life for longer than 1000 years since they are immortal by age.
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Ral-Jiktar
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i know elves live for eternaty, but even for that I find them arrogant, I was watching LOTR on DVD and I looked at all the aspecks of real myth Fantasy, they are all there, and if you look and hear really well, even the eles there are arrogant "We gave the humans there chance, they refused, if they help they will doom us all" its not an exact quote but its mainly wath the elf says, ge maybe if you used your mighty knowledge and used it more than telling us how stupid where are, or saying dwarves do nothing more than mine we would have a better moral. In morrowind the Dark elves are really the dark side, racist, arrogant, selfish, anoying, those are traits of all fantasy elves, its suprising how most people dont see this.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ral-Jiktar
i know elves live for eternaty, but even for that I find them arrogant, I was watching LOTR on DVD and I looked at all the aspecks of real myth Fantasy, they are all there, and if you look and hear really well, even the eles there are arrogant "We gave the humans there chance, they refused, if they help they will doom us all" its not an exact quote but its mainly wath the elf says, ge maybe if you used your mighty knowledge and used it more than telling us how stupid where are, or saying dwarves do nothing more than mine we would have a better moral. In morrowind the Dark elves are really the dark side, racist, arrogant, selfish, anoying, those are traits of all fantasy elves, its suprising how most people dont see this.


Elves help people pretty often, specially for good causes.
Take LOTR for example.
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Post Mon Aug 26, 2002 6:14 am
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I think his point was that they only helped once they had to. If they had been better leaders in the first place perhaps it wouldn’t have been necessary, but instead of realizing that and trying to help humans to not make such mistakes in the future, they continue to stand back and pass judgment. They seem to feel it is their duty to point out our mistakes after we make them, instead of when they can see them coming.
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Thing is, in LOTR, the time of the elves was over.
Elves were leaving middle-earth, humans had to fight their own battles, and take care of themselves, since it was their world.
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I admit Elves do help thoes in need, but when the Humans decided to keep the ring, Elves just abandoned, and left humans to die. they just dont stand up and help when really needed they only help when THEY in some manor or fashion get something in return, im not talking about gold or money but protection and safety. its just sad to see such a High race drive themselves and only help when they may get involved. on the goo side elves are agile and intelegent, they know the arts of magic and the code of war (weapons) they are the most disiplined of all races and have the most organized civilasation ever. but they do lack some thing, they are weak in phisical strength. they are capable to live for immortality, and usualy make godd desitions, they are very absorvent, thy alwais look before leaping, they stay loyal to every good cause (as long as they get something in return) and rarely go to a derker side.

Of topic, I still remeber one of my third little RPG town meatings, we got dreased and whent to play D&D games, I was alwais a noble Paladin Called Kata and one of my friend was a elf sorcerer Like most sorcerers they are really wierd, they lurned the arts of magic very young and think there higher in stature (Goes double for elves) when he entered he was iferent, he was anoying, he moked me as I can only kill undead (Paladins have magic against undead and healing) he was jus that anoying, so we decided to set our diferences in a simple one on one (I lost), He mocked me and insulted more people (espaialy dwarves, he hates dwarves).
at the end of the day, we got out after winning two awards one for best Paladin (Me) and Anoying-Little-Elvin-Runt-That -Should-shut-His-Yap Award (actualy its called best elven sorcerer), now I hope nest year he tries somebody else, Maybe he shoul be an Orc Barbarien, Or a undead warlord (I could vest him anytime), anyway, that may be related at why I hate Elves To.
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