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Val
Risen From Ashes

Joined: 18 Feb 2002
Posts: 14724
Location: Utah, USA |
Tell yourself whatever lies you want to excuse your behavior ziBzi, but it doesn't change the truth.
I do not want a copy. _________________ Freeeeeeedom! Thank heavens it's summer!
What do I have to show for my hard work? A piece of paper! Wee!
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Thu Jan 08, 2004 7:38 pm |
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ziBzi
Necromancer

Joined: 10 Apr 2003
Posts: 460
Location: The Lost Land |
Yeah your right Val.
But thats still not enough to stop me.
Its been a long time since i first set eyes upon the name world of warcraft, even since i was hooked, thirsty for more. Now i have it.
I have that little piece of happeness.
And its people like you who want to take it away. why? Im not hurting you.
And this hardly effects the game at all. Just some idiots want to setup and run a server, i just see it as a demo.
Ok enough of the third degree. _________________ \\//\\//\\//
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Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:18 am |
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Actually, Zibzi, Val is correct. By downloading the leaked alpha, you are committing an illegal act. You can colour it any way you want to, but it's still illegal. Moreover, you're buying into the crap these people are selling by making them feel all cool with the number of dls they get. Zibzi, these people are the reason that games are so freaking expensive, the RIAA and the MPAA are paranoid, and CD-ROM drives don't play certain CDs anymore. We'd be better off without these script kiddie jerk-offs. |
Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:11 pm |
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ziBzi
Necromancer

Joined: 10 Apr 2003
Posts: 460
Location: The Lost Land |
Yeah she is right. Anyway after all this i forgot it was a 2gig download. heh.
Guess il just have to wait until 2010 _________________ \\//\\//\\//
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Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:35 pm |
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Cryptor69
Head Merchant


Joined: 08 Jan 2004
Posts: 62
Location: Canada / Poland |
How should I put this... Some companies tend to overprice their products simply couse they know it will sell anyways. The way things are can only be blamed on us, gamers, due to the fact that we pay what they tell us to pay. Let me illustrate it. As far as games go : Diablo 2 was 100 $ CAN when it first came out, and ( for example ) FALLOUT 2 was less then half that price. There was nothing original about Diablo 2 ( mind you i like the game and purchased english as well as polish english versions after they came to bargain bin ) and FALLOUT 2 was simply one of the greatest. Now, replace FALLOUT 2 with whatever other game you like if you wish.
More blunt example ? MS Windows ( for example ) XP, need I say more ?
What I'am saying is that some things are unfairly priced and I refuse to pay that ammount of money. Not only I refuse to do so, I also belive that they should be to some extent punished for their greediness.
Keep in mind that I purchase many games, propably more then most of you reading this. I own originals of pretty much everything in the top 20 places of the rpgdot.com top 100 games, in many cases in english and polish language versions. The reason why I'am saying this is to prove that people who think this way do not just download everything.
Since I work in the industry, I personally see the huge profits some companies make, and it bugs me that it always seems to be the ones that do not deserve them. I will not get into this topic in deph at this time.
I won't pay 60 $ + for a game, I simply refuse to do so, and I urge you all to do thesame. With the number of games that are being released these days on regular basis you can find fantastic quality titles for the fraction of the cost of the overpriced, overhyped titles often seen today.
Yes I'am over 30 , yes I have a steady job ( someone always thinks u r 15 and unemployed when stating above ideas ).
Hmm, well the bottom line is greedy bastards that release overpriced cr@p wil have their titles cracked and posted on the net every single time. _________________ Life is a Lie, Death is an Illussion |
Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:26 pm |
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Val
Risen From Ashes

Joined: 18 Feb 2002
Posts: 14724
Location: Utah, USA |
Pity thieves don't discriminate.  _________________ Freeeeeeedom! Thank heavens it's summer!
What do I have to show for my hard work? A piece of paper! Wee!
=Guardian, Moderator, UltimaDot Newshound=  |
Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:39 pm |
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Ammon777
Warrior for Heaven

Joined: 20 Apr 2002
Posts: 2011
Location: United States |
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Mon Jan 12, 2004 6:26 pm |
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Ammon777
Warrior for Heaven

Joined: 20 Apr 2002
Posts: 2011
Location: United States |
... since im the wrong one, no need to post how software theft is wrong here. its perfectly acceptable as long as you feel like it doesnt hurt anyone else.
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Mon Jan 12, 2004 6:39 pm |
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Cryptor69
Head Merchant


Joined: 08 Jan 2004
Posts: 62
Location: Canada / Poland |
#1. ) Ammon777 I don't think you actually read any of my post beyond the first sentence, nor do you seem capable of comprehending it. Please read it again, ( for the first time ). I have never said that I downbload or pirate games. Hoever, I have said that I do not purchase overpriced software ( including games ). How you make connection between someone who refuses to pay too much with someone that de-engineers software code to crack it is beyond me.
#2. ) Allow me to re-state my point to clarify once again : I choose not to purchase "newest" and "bestest" hyped games bec. they are highly overpriced. I don't have to download or pirate anything due to the simple fact that there is tons of fantastic titles that came out 6 months ago and later that are available for the fraction of the cost of the new hyped titles. Come to think of it most good RPG games came out more then 6 months ago. The point is this : As long as you pay $ 99 they will charge this much and try to charge even more, when they notice that games for under $ 40 sell the best they will adjust their price ( needless to say this is terribly simplified way of stating things nevertheless what is significant is the end effect ).
#3. ) For the most part games are not this expensive bec. some people out there download them but due to a simple fact of too many titles coming out on regular basis. There is simply too many games coming out. You would think that this would drive the prices down, but nop, publishers chose to hike them to keep the profit margins ( since you pay the higher prices anyways ). What this means is that they have to sell less to make thesame ammount of profit.
#4. ) I did state that the overpriced titles will always be available for download, that is simply a fact. That does not mean in any way that I download software.
#5. ) By punishing publishers with overpriced titles i simply meant no tpurchasing them, to be honest I thought that was clear to start with.
Piracy is not right and we all know this, I'am sure most of us purchase their games. Personally I see why some kids downlaod new games, they are too expensive. I just think something should be done and refuse to pay for overpriced things.
I'am not sure if you realise, but the "longhorn network" and all of the solutions of this type ASSUME one thing ( that is not correct ). They all assume that you have pernament connection to the net that is always on, and/or that you have a connection that can be used without your knowledge. I mean, this is just silly so there really is no point in discussing it.
I hope it's all clear now. _________________ Life is a Lie, Death is an Illussion |
Tue Jan 13, 2004 6:35 am |
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Ammon777
Warrior for Heaven

Joined: 20 Apr 2002
Posts: 2011
Location: United States |
ack! i got you mixed up with ziBzi ! my bad, sorry. i wasnt paying attention to names. i was talking to ziBzi in the first place. |
Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:46 am |
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ziBzi
Necromancer

Joined: 10 Apr 2003
Posts: 460
Location: The Lost Land |
Hmm, Do not blame it on me for your idiotic reply.
I will do what the heck i want. its people like you that make me want to do it so just shut up.
And what difference does it make whith who said it? Because you thought i said what he did you gave that silly reply. Well he said it so what you got to say now(After you have actually read it) _________________ \\//\\//\\//
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Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:52 am |
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Ammon777
Warrior for Heaven

Joined: 20 Apr 2002
Posts: 2011
Location: United States |
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Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:08 pm |
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