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have a 5,000 modern day soliders, or 10,000 knights
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ScOut3R
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How many times must i say, that knights didn't fight on horses against infantry?
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I'll take modern soldiers over knights.
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Post Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:22 pm
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I always thought knights are overrated in Medieval Europe. Mongolians completely whooped their butts even though they don't wear any armour. Mongolians were also outnumbered in most battles by about 7:1.
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Post Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:23 pm
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I didn't know that the mongolians were outnumbered so greatly:( They attacked my country in the 13th century. The main battle was at Muhi in 1241. The mongolians had about 80-100.000 soldiers and the hungarians about 60.000. The mongolians won easily because the hungarian's tactic was crap:) and the light armored mongolian cavalry were more agile and manuverable.
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Just to put things in perspective..

When I did my military service (in the swedish military) we had the following equipment:

PSG90 = Snipergun that's accurate on distances close to a kilometer! Add to that the special plastic high velocity ammunition (that's been bought by the US, Germany etc.) and you've got a weapon no knight, with or without armour, could withstand.

KSP90 = Huge guns that you position around your camp. Variable firing rate from 600 rpm to 2000+ rounds per minute. Ammo comes in big cases and rolls out on a band.

AG90 = Caliber .50 gun that's mostly used to kill people through concrete walls. Comes with night vision and heat vision goggles. Armour piercing, and I don't mean knight armour. Tank armour!

AK-5 = Standard weapon for the common soldier. Easy maintenance. Under 30 parts to assemble after cleaning! We learnt to assemble them blindfolded in under a minute. Uses standard NATO ammo. Several different firing modes, from single shot (for aimed shots) to full auto when you're facing 20 knights at once

AK-5 G = (Not sure about the name.. sorry) It's the same as the standard AK-5, but it has a second barrel beneath the primary barrel. It fires grenades.

On top of all this we had headsets for easy communication, computerized radios, bandwagons, tanks, helicopters, mines, motorcycles, snowmobiles.. And we always tripwire mined our camps when we had to sleep. Who can honestly believe 10k knights would have a chance even against a moderate swedish army? (There are meaner armies in the world, trust me..)
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When Mongolian invade Hugary, at that point Mongolian empires were already very large and had mercenaries fighting for them. They started out very small. They were outnumbered by Chinese by about 15:1. Of course, Chinese army were too spread out and corrupt. They were outnumbered by Russians by 9:1 and still beat them easily. They were outnumbered by the Persians by the same number and still beat them. Mongolia at beginning doesn't produce metal. Average soldiers don't have metal on their weapons and their armour were just thin leather armour. They are more like clothes than armour. They fight mainly with bows and arrows and blunt weapons and they are very good at tactics involving fire and smoke screens. They have a very brilliant military tactician and you all know what his name is.

Eventually Chinese spear army got their act together and kicked their asses. It was possible mainly because Mongolian army at that point were made of 90% disloyal mercenaries since their empire were too big.
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quote:
Originally posted by mkreku
Just to put things in perspective..

When I did my military service (in the swedish military) we had the following equipment:




Wow. I didn't know Sweden even had a military. Some of us Americans think you guys are a bunch of animal loving, anti-war tree huggers. Just kidding. I do know you have a military that's why the most Finns still hate you. You guys invaded their country 150 years ago.
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Just a polite note to let you know that double posting is frowned upon by the mods here. Please use the Edit button.
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quote:
Originally posted by Joeman
quote:
Originally posted by mkreku
Just to put things in perspective..

When I did my military service (in the swedish military) we had the following equipment:




Wow. I didn't know Sweden even had a military. Some of us Americans think you guys are a bunch of animal loving, anti-war tree huggers. Just kidding. I do know you have a military that's why the most Finns still hate you. You guys invaded their country 150 years ago.

That was a while ago, now the army is only there for defence, but I'm not sure it would help if anyone decided to invade. Our new Minister of Defence is an opponent to the Swedish JAS 39 Gripen figher planes...
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Modern day soldiers could do more damage, and if I was in a war, I'd choose them, but Knights are cooler.
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quote:
Originally posted by Toaster
That was a while ago, now the army is only there for defence, but I'm not sure it would help if anyone decided to invade. Our new Minister of Defence is an opponent to the Swedish JAS 39 Gripen figher planes...


No one is going to invade Sweden as long as Sweden is part of NATO. Remember that the next time someone bad mouth the US. I don't think we even ask for "protection money"
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quote:
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No one is going to invade Sweden as long as Sweden is part of NATO. Remember that the next time someone bad mouth the US. I don't think we even ask for "protection money"

Well, Sweden doesn't have any oil so noone would give a poop if.. uh.. Norway decided they wanted to invade Sweden. Hey, that would be kind of cool..
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quote:
Originally posted by Joeman
quote:
Originally posted by Toaster
That was a while ago, now the army is only there for defence, but I'm not sure it would help if anyone decided to invade. Our new Minister of Defence is an opponent to the Swedish JAS 39 Gripen figher planes...


No one is going to invade Sweden as long as Sweden is part of NATO. Remember that the next time someone bad mouth the US. I don't think we even ask for "protection money"

There's only one little problem here. Sweden isn't a part of NATO. We're supposed to be non-aligned... The politicians say we're safer if we have no allies...
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Safer when you have no friends? Riiiiiight.
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I suppose it would be safer because you wouldn't have to worry yourself about other nation's affairs. It would be a lot harder to make enemies that way.
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