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titus
Survivor of Hell
Joined: 03 Aug 2003
Posts: 778
Location: Standing at the Hell mouth |
or just try to lure a small group away from th rest and kill those orcs 
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SimCity
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 07 May 2004
Posts: 26
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I would like to see very exclusive main quests for the different classes. For example, choosing a certain path creates such a completely different game (until the very end) that you can't even see hardly any relationships with taking one path or another.
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Gambling on fights at night in a big arena, placing odds on certain fighters in a tournament (if you're not good enough to get in, or just want to watch the action from the stands).
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Participating in a big elimination tournament with different fighters from across the world. Create an arena (using the idea from Gothic I) but make it bigger, more fancy. Place a crowd gathering there (in the evening after work). Entry fee is 25 gold or something. Then all the fighters gather in the back, and then called out together onto special benches where they sit while watching each fight until they're called next.
Haha, the setup is almost endless for this. With some very clever AI scripting, making gestures, having the fighters approach each other, lift their weapon up to one another to signal they're ready, and then fighting when the ref screams "Fight!"
Only one problem... since you don't have a name, putting "Stranger" up next might be a problem, but there are tons of workarounds with that, it's not a big deal. How are they handling the story? Maybe his name is for you to create with the story (if they don't know it yet). Each night, a tournament takes place, and the results are kept for the next night when the fights continue.
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New armors, weapons (of course)
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AIs react more to you and who you are. Gothic has always been very good with handling their different reactions, but it would be really cool if more people were super-realistically aware of exactly what you're doing and who you are.
Such as...
(1) When you rob a house, the next day, the guards are by the house talking to the owner, and the owner mentions to you that a thief robbed him... and an investigation is underway.
(2) Murdered people spark huge investigations from the guards, who patrol more at night, go around the neighborhood asking questions to people, and while it may be beyond the scope here, could have very unique methods of catching you if you made some silly error along the way that doesn't include simply being seen by someone else.
(3) Dead bodies are taken to a graveyard or burial place. Seeing dead bodies laying around town after days and days could get a little annoying. Having guards take the bodies to a burial place a little after the discovery is found would be nice.
(4) Being put in jail or prison for your crimes. Having friends that you make bail you out if you did them a favor. If no one likes you, you're going to have to do something else. If you're a really bad guy, maybe some of your "really bad" friends can plan an attack and escape method for you. 
(5) People react to seeing dead bodies for the very first time. If I murdered someone, and someone came across the body, I would like to hear them scream, and run right for the guards. Also, upon this, it would spark a gathering of townsfolk and guards running over to the body until the proper investigators arrived.
Oh well, just some stuff. |
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Patriot
Small Tiger
Joined: 31 May 2004
Posts: 1421
Location: Athens,Greece |
We've talk about that many times. 
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Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:01 pm |
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Bytespawn
Tempered Warlord
Joined: 10 Nov 2003
Posts: 295
Location: Belgium |
-much more stable talking system
-Not-evil dragons
-An easy to use modkit
-restockable Mana and health potions
-the character will not learn his own name, because he already knows.
Every time he wants to say it, he just gets interrupted.
-Respawning monsters, and a bit less XP from each individual monster, i know you will say, thats 'so' like Diablo, but I think itt'l be much better. And yes the AI of the other NPC's can easily be greatly improved, like someone who sees he has been robbed and starts searching for his lost stuff, going to the police or guard station.
Maybe G3 can use multiple citys...
And there must be no more then one ending, an ending in wich the war ends.
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Sat Jul 03, 2004 6:20 pm |
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mezertine
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 28 Jun 2004
Posts: 25
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-hand to hand combat (also leg combat)
-far endless wandering around in the wilderness for animals non-crucial to the plot |
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Sun Jul 04, 2004 5:03 am |
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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
how about we change everything in it ? maybe change the name also ???  dudes that first thread suggestion was kinda nice about the arenas and stuff i liked it very much but those last onez duhhh kinda makes the game Diablo + Morrowind hybrid FOR SURE! let it be like it was that arena idea was tho nice and bleh i think when in old days someone was robbed or killed almost no one gave a sh*t , they thought on theyr own only |
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Sun Jul 04, 2004 11:54 am |
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SimCity
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 07 May 2004
Posts: 26
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quote:
Originally posted by Daedalus
how about we change everything in it ? maybe change the name also ??? dudes that first thread suggestion was kinda nice about the arenas and stuff i liked it very much but those last onez duhhh kinda makes the game Diablo + Morrowind hybrid FOR SURE! let it be like it was that arena idea was tho nice and bleh i think when in old days someone was robbed or killed almost no one gave a sh*t , they thought on theyr own only
Haha, no of course not. Keep the same name and keep everything, just possible ideas to expand. 
Yeah, I would like to see the arena. You know though that just because I made a lot of suggestions doesn't mean that the game isn't already spectacular of course. I suppose Gothic is one of those games where the idea is so extraordinary to allow that type of expansion, you know? I mean honestly, what could we possibly do to make Morrowind better? I think Morrowind is a good game, but not a great game like Gothic. Morrowind has reached its ceiling and it's not going any higher or getting any better as far as immersion goes, because of the restrictions it placed on itself from the beginning. Same with Diablo. Gothic though, allows for a lot of expansion because of how revolutionary the idea was from the beginning. It's like, the more things we want to add, the better the game was to begin with because it allowed for it to be expanded.
Hmm, I know it sounds strange, but you know what I mean. Gothic, as is, is the best RPG game out there. But if it expands on its ideas, it could reach a level where no game could even come close or touch it, several levels higher than even the next closest game.
I talk too much I suppose. |
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Sun Jul 04, 2004 1:24 pm |
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Pochey45
Village Dweller
Joined: 24 Jul 2004
Posts: 1
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I personally think G2 needs shields... if you want to go 1hand you should be able to get a shield! whats the point of even having 1h opposed to 2h if shields arent incorporated.. speed i guess but it bothers me to see shields on the walls and what not while not being able to use them! is it my version that doesnt have shields or did they not incorporate them into the game? well at any rate they should! |
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Sat Jul 24, 2004 4:20 am |
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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
quote:
Originally posted by Pochey45
I personally think G2 needs shields... if you want to go 1hand you should be able to get a shield! whats the point of even having 1h opposed to 2h if shields arent incorporated.. speed i guess but it bothers me to see shields on the walls and what not while not being able to use them! is it my version that doesnt have shields or did they not incorporate them into the game? well at any rate they should!
well rumors are and some interviews with devs mention that in gothic 3 there will be shields , i tho aint that happy about it i liked the game without shields cos all other games allready have shields why not make a little bit differents and leave it in gothic style without the shields :;P |
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