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Stiler
Fearless Paladin
Joined: 23 Mar 2002
Posts: 230
Location: TN, USA |
I can stand top teen's + in frames because it is smooth, but 9 fps- 15 is not smooth at all, its very noticable to me. and if i turn down view distance all the way it helps a lot but good god, sooooo much fog |
Sun May 05, 2002 11:06 pm |
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Shifter
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People who are bitching about framerates...return the game, get you a nice 2d game that does not test your system at all..and stop whining.
I only pull 10-20 (usually around 13) in towns and outside but the game is smooth (with a few exceptions but hardly noticable)..turn OFF the FPS show and play the damn game. |
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Sun May 05, 2002 11:31 pm |
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Shifter
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Oh and for the guy that compared the FPS in Morrowind to the FPS in JK2...get over it. The 2 games are totally different. The amount of detail and animation and things to be tracked in Morrowind is much larger than in JK2 (Dont get me wrong..JK2 is awesome) |
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Sun May 05, 2002 11:32 pm |
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To the people saying anything over 30fps is lost to your eye, or that 200+ fps is useless... WRONG (btw ntsc has 60 fps, interlaced, film 24fps. they appear visually perfect because of motion blur, etc). You need/want 200+fps in games like q3 because the benchmarks you use to get 200fps do not tell the whole story. They give an average framerate, and do not tell you that your framerate can drop to 2 fps in a hectic multiplayer game with explosions and npcs coming out of the woodwork. MORE FPS IS BETTER! Get that through your head.
2nd... I get 20 fps in towns running 1600x1024 (thx thx regedit and my widescreen 24" sony monitor =). That's fine for me in morrowind, actually its awesome =) I don't need super high fps because I am not trying to take a railshot at a moving targets head while I am leaping off a rampart. I can hardly tell its not running at 30+fps.
I probably have the best gaming rig money can buy within reason. I buy the latest and greatest shit as soon as it comes out, and then I overclock it to hell and back with my pretty insane water cooling rig. I WANT a game to push this to its max, I love it when I can't run everything at full. Because it gives me something to look forward too with the new hardware upgrades 
I totally don't understand the earlier posters arguing that they hate developers releasing stuff that can tax the latest and greatest.
I LOVE IT!!!!
Did I mention I love morrowind too? Hated daggerfall's implementation, but loved its promise. Morrowind delivers on that promise and I couldn't be happier. No other game has the depth, gameplay, and OMFG mind blowing visuals that is Morrowind.
1100+ 3dmark2001se are very common now btw. Whoever said 1077 max is on crack.
- Gendal |
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Mon May 06, 2002 12:57 am |
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Matt
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I dont think you guys are getting it. If a lower to midrange computer, runs it fine. Shouldn't a better computer run it better? I have a 1700xp and a radeon 8500, and I get the same fps as lower end systems. Something seems wrong, dont you think? |
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Mon May 06, 2002 5:53 am |
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Hagatha
King of the Realms
Joined: 10 Feb 2002
Posts: 456
Location: Burnaby, B.C. |
Both Gothic and Dungeon Siege played beautifully on my system - no framerate problems AT ALL!!!!! I just finished DS yesterday.
But I cannot play this game - choppy to the point that it actually stops every few seconds. Now what is that all about?
I agree - the framerate is unacceptable. |
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Mon May 06, 2002 6:19 am |
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Gig
Southern Spirit
Joined: 20 Feb 2002
Posts: 3226
Location: NFG Headquarters |
quote:
Originally posted by Anonymous
Btw ntsc has 60 fps, interlaced
The NTSC broadcast standard is 30 (29.97) frames per second--"60 fps interlaced" means 60 interlaced fields per second. Each of the two fields (A & B) provides half of the frame's information. Both fields are required to make a frame, field A + field B = 1 complete frame, or 30 frames per second.
It's misleading to say "60 fps interlaced" unless you're talking to someone who knows what interlacing is and understands the difference between fields per second and frames per second. In fact, 60 fps interlaced is just another way of saying 30 fps. I think you were trying to imply that video is 60 frames per second which, I assure you, it is not.
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Tue May 07, 2002 3:31 am |
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iplaygames2
Master of The Realms
Joined: 06 Sep 2001
Posts: 745
Location: Chicago, IL, USA |
Daaaaaaaaaaaamn...
Gig knows her frames/fields per second..
You go girl.. 
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Tue May 07, 2002 4:16 am |
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That's a bunch of symantics Gig. I thought I was rambling enough in my post and that if people wanted to know exactly what interlacing meant they could look it up. Its a qualifier to the 60fps comment, which you are probably correct, most people would read it and think gee, NTSC rocks, 60 fps! Which of course is far from the truth.
- Gendal |
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Tue May 07, 2002 5:04 am |
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Herman
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- -- - --- - -- ---- - ----- -- - --- - -- - - -- - - - - -
PIII-733. | .512MB RAM
9 Gig HD | 2.7 Gigs Free
System Resources 92% on Boot
GeForce2 GTS 64MB DDR
Soundblaster Live Value
- -/Step back Boys, she's BLaZiNG hot... No, I mean it STEP BACK/-- - - - -
.Morrowind Settings.
1024x768 32bit
NEAREST |<- AI Distance
View Distance ->| FARTHEST
OFF |<- Real Time Shadows
.Morrowind FPS Average.
Wilderness/Backcountry: 14-24 FPS [Avg 20 FPS]
Towns/Halfway Houses: 10-18 FPS [16 FPS]
Cities: 8-18 FPS [13 FPS]
Inside: 20-80 FPS [50 FPS]
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Yeah, it's choppy at times... but I gues what REALLY makes me a Winner is that I'm not .BiTCHiNG. about it and I'm enjoying the game. 
.Good day Gnetlemen. . |
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Tue May 07, 2002 9:07 am |
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quote:
Originally posted by Sand
(Is there a console command to display framerate?)
My system:
1.33 GHz Athlon
512 MB PC2100 RAM
GeForce3 Ti200 (overclocked to 240/510)
Windows XP Pro
After creating a test character to fiddle with settings, I came up with:
2xAA
AI Distance: about the middle
Clipping: Maximum distance
Shadows: One increment from Off
Sounds: All the way on
Pixel Shading: on
I don't know about exact frame rates, but I get noticeable slowdowns in the starting village, and am fine in the countryside. For me, noticeable means I can see the game slowing down, but it's not bad enough to be a problem.
I believe quincunx FSAA is faster than 2x. It looks better too. |
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Wed May 08, 2002 2:44 am |
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Jellomancer
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By the way, the slow framerates are because of CPU usage, not video card. I can turn on Quincunx FSAA on my GF4 4400 and there is NO performance hit. It looks like it runs between 20 and 30fps (I don't use that fps show crap). |
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Wed May 08, 2002 2:59 am |
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I would hate to be so anal that I fixated on fps and couldn't get immersed in the MW world. If you're not immersed in MW b/c of technical problems then that sucks--but please do a self check and make sure it's not your own hangups that are causing the problems eg.fixated upon fps counter. If you perhaps stop obsessing over the size of your rig, and focus upon whether the game is running pleasantly, you might be able to drift away from RL, and even gasp!...forget about your 3DMark scores. |
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Wed May 08, 2002 7:07 pm |
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Sterno
Village Dweller
Joined: 12 Mar 2002
Posts: 2
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Frames Per Second (FPS) aren't all that important.
I mean, look at Bard's Tale, one of the best RPGs ever. That game is all about Frames Per Click (FPC).
I'd take a new version of Bard's Tale over Morrowind any day of the week. But that darn Devil's Whiskey game is taking way too long to come out.
*sob* |
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Wed May 08, 2002 9:51 pm |
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Breakapart
Village Leader
Joined: 03 May 2002
Posts: 84
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quote:
Originally posted by Stiler
If no one is having problems then why is the low fps issues the biggest post in all the morrowind forums? eh thoght so.
Allow me to be blunt...
Cry babies ARE ALWAYS louder than happy people, fact of life.
Nobody has said the fps are something to write home about, but it's not as bad as these chicken littles are making it out to be. |
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