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Rawis
Gorthaur
Joined: 01 Apr 2002
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I have played lot of RPG games, i realy enjoyed Morrowind, but now when i have finished it I don't feel like playing It again, becouse its pretty much the same even if you play the game as another character and even another class.
I think it is different with Arcanum, you can create alot of different characters, and the NPC's will react different on the person you are, this makes the game more interesting even if you play the game over again.
I like it when you can play as evil or good, whice you could not realy do in Morrowind, in Arcanum you can finish the quests in differnt ways, mostly a evil or a good way.
Like, i had to find out a location for an elven town, so i asked and elf, he told me the location gladly, just becouse i was an elf, when i later had to find this place i was playing as a another race, he didn't wan't to tell me, i had to make a quest to prove that i was worthy of know the location of the hidden elven town... 
I think more RPG games should be like this, i mean, Arcanum didn't have any fancy graphics, but Morrowind did, what if you would have a game like Arcanum and some of the great systems of Morrowind?
(Please don't flame me now, i know that you all know that i love Arcanum... but this post was not meant to be an Arcanum discussion... i mean, the Fallout games have alot of great things that most of the new RPG games don't have...) |
Mon Jul 15, 2002 3:30 pm |
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dteowner
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Joined: 21 Mar 2002
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Location: Third Hero of Erathia |
The level cap really blew, particularly for melee types. Not being able to give schematics to followers meant you had to cover all the techs yourself if you wanted to use some of the cool schematics. For all the levelling, I never did come up with a good long-term character development plan even with several attempts.
In spite of those complaints, and the fact that I always bogged down before finishing the game, I would say Arcanum was an above average offering. In particular, all RPG developers should be required to study how the Arcanum team did the journal. Particularly the Morrowind team...
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Mon Jul 15, 2002 7:35 pm |
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Rawis
Gorthaur
Joined: 01 Apr 2002
Posts: 1861
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Yeah, the level cap wasn't any good. 
But i liked that your followers could take care of themelves... i hate controlling more than one character in RPG games. |
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Mon Jul 15, 2002 7:51 pm |
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Seth
Last Man Standing
Joined: 23 Jan 2002
Posts: 1008
Location: Faerun |
Yes, Arcanum is in my top five games of all time despite the level cap.
Now, not being able to control all your followers: I can't shake the image from Fallout2. Sheriff Marcus and his favorite machine-gun. DO NOT STAND IN FONT OF HIM. 
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Mon Jul 15, 2002 11:44 pm |
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Rawis
Gorthaur
Joined: 01 Apr 2002
Posts: 1861
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quote:
Originally posted by Seth
Yes, Arcanum is in my top five games of all time despite the level cap.
Now, not being able to control all your followers: I can't shake the image from Fallout2. Sheriff Marcus and his favorite machine-gun. DO NOT STAND IN FONT OF HIM.
Thats true, its also fun when you are trying to use a machine-gun when you have very few points on Big Guns, i stood infront of a guy, Chance to Hit -10%!
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Tue Jul 16, 2002 2:11 am |
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Scrivener
Noble Knight
Joined: 20 Jun 2002
Posts: 223
Location: Australia |
I still remember one time in Fallout 2...
We were going through that narrow door into the raiders underground cavern. Marcus was standing between me and that old bartender with the heart problem (Casey???). A raider runs up to just in front of Marcus. Marcus lifts up his minigun.... Immediately my heart starts beating faster - is Marcus going to blow all our heads off? But no, the raider disappears in a fine red spray, and me and the other NPC only cop about five bullets each. Go Marcus! |
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Tue Jul 16, 2002 5:22 am |
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Remus
Overgrown Cat
Joined: 03 Jul 2002
Posts: 1657
Location: Fish bowl |
quote:
Originally posted by Seth
I can't shake the image from Fallout2. Sheriff Marcus and his favorite machine-gun. DO NOT STAND IN FONT OF HIM.
That's true indeed . I remember one time i was surrounded by some bad guys & one of them pointing a real big gun at me. I thought dammit & i'm dead meat this time. It turn out that he blow away someone from his own gang. Anyway i aways paranoia during combat - don't know whether i would accidently shoot dead my own follower, or the other way around, or who will geeting shoot by whom! .
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Tue Jul 16, 2002 5:51 am |
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Rawis
Gorthaur
Joined: 01 Apr 2002
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I like that you can acctualy hit more than one enemy with burst. |
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Tue Jul 16, 2002 1:17 pm |
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Val
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Joined: 18 Feb 2002
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Location: Utah, USA |
Yes, it's fun to watch several people do the riddled with bullets dance.
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Tue Jul 16, 2002 4:45 pm |
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Rawis
Gorthaur
Joined: 01 Apr 2002
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And:
"You were critial hit for 0 damage, feel the pain!" |
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Wed Jul 17, 2002 2:39 am |
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MoonDragon
High Emperor
Joined: 25 May 2002
Posts: 1254
Location: Waterloo, Canada |
quote:
Originally posted by Seth
...Marcus and his favorite machine-gun. DO NOT STAND IN FONT OF HIM.
That's what Plasma rifles were for. He absolutely rocked with those.
But yeah, there was nothing like entering a cave full of geckos, have them line up in the tunnel and then aim your bozar at the furthest one. Then let'er rip! I think the max I got was 5 geckos with one burst.
Aw man... you're making me wanna go replay fallout now... (starting to salivate from the corner of my mouth...)
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Wed Jul 17, 2002 2:44 pm |
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Rawis
Gorthaur
Joined: 01 Apr 2002
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So go find your cd and replay it! It is a great game. |
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Wed Jul 17, 2002 2:46 pm |
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Vilgefortz the mage
Noble Knight
Joined: 24 Jul 2002
Posts: 203
Location: Khorinis Mage Guild |
I remember a quest to kill a gang leader in Reading. I've opened the door to his hideout and run away. Marcus camed in and all i had to do is tap end turn  .
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Sat Aug 03, 2002 5:16 pm |
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Rawis
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quote:
Originally posted by Vilgefortz the mage
I remember a quest to kill a gang leader in Reading. I've opened the door to his hideout and run away. Marcus camed in and all i had to do is tap end turn .
Well, mutants can be usefull. |
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Sat Aug 03, 2002 6:28 pm |
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Vilgefortz the mage
Noble Knight
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But only, if they are on your side hostile mutants aren't useful
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